Chit Chat about Jimmy

[colstar]

Jimmy won really well today. Showed real good early and stayed on much better after very good back straight pace won him the race.

This is the first time I hadn't backed him so would like to propose a little something for all members to make sure his winning run continues: If you agree, every member to send me £10 each time he runs on the proviso that I don't back him again. LOL Sounds good to me!!!

Col

[Dave]

Any chance of me getting in on this act as its the 1st time i've not bet him as well,saying that it was only because i had visitors and could'nt get away but really pleased he has won for everyone..

[richardc]

I couldn't get out to see him so I didn't back him either. Typical. Not to worry, well done Jimmy, a well deserved victory.

[aderek]

I can have what is for me a decent bet these days without feeling any excitement at all but as he galloped into the lead on his way to the first bend and then set off in front down the back straight just as he had done before, even with only a few quid riding on the previously disappointing tracker, I felt myself wanting to shout at the screen to tell him to keep xxxxxx going. I didn’t of course, but I felt sure that anytime soon for whatever reason, he would have had enough and the pack behind him would be on top of him and that would be that, until the next time.

But this time was to be different, it was as if he knew that he was carrying my smallest bet on him since I joined the syndicate and he was in his way saying to me “Oh ye of little faith” and promptly went on and finished the race out in style winning easily in 29.62 not his best time but an improvement on recent races

It is a long time since a dog has got me as excited as Jimmy did last Friday morning and it had showed as seemingly I had got so excited that the topic of conversation in my local betting shop for the rest of the day was to be how much had I had on trap 4 in the 11.57?

I haven’t made anybody any the wiser and what’s more I haven’t myself been bothered like I normally would have been that I had had so little on after having previously lost more on this dog that I had written off every time he had run but who showed me this time that maybe I had been wrong all along.

I still don’t think that the Stow trip is his “distance” and I am sure he would be a higher grade dog over a shorter trip but whether that is important or not I don’t know, one thing is for sure I would rather see him carry on at the Stow over this trip than miss out on the pleasure of watching him run if he were to go somewhere that I couldn’t shout at him, even if it is only to be by courtesy of the Bags and SIS.

[Dave]

Derek

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh the beauty of greyhound racing,don't you just luvvvvvvvv it..........lol.,....

Most dogs seem to have a habit of biting you when you least expect it and me thinks it won't be the last time we'll be discussing our Jim Lad,look at Mac as well,who would have thought he'd win when not leading till the 1/2 way mark and doing by far his quickest run,just goes to show that all dogs come forward at different stages and by being patient we will in time reap the rewards..

Now then come on Lucyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy tomorrow.

[clivehumphreys]

Watched race yesterday, he broke well and led into the first bend until the last bend, held on for second place, still believe he would be better at a shorter distance, comments please

[aderek]

As an ardent fan and past critic of Jimmy I was gutted when I arrived at the betting shop seconds too late to watch him run. I had him backed before hand and intended topping up on my wager if I thought his price value.

What made it worse nobody in the shop could tell me anything about the race, even worse was to come when I couldn’t find on any of the usual websites what time he had done and according to the BGRB Official website he hasn’t had a race since he won on the 14th of July.

So I still don’t know any details other than those you have provided Clive.

However providing his time is about the same as it has been and he hasn’t gone and found a lot, it seems as though he may have run his usual race which would suggest as I have mentioned previously that he might well be a higher graded dog over a shorter distance but and I realise that this may sound selfish, I would still be reluctant to suggest he be moved to somewhere with a distance which may or may not suit him better if it meant us all missing out on the opportunity to watch him run, albeit on bags or 854.

Providing he didn’t knock any time off his previous winning run he could be potentially our most leniently graded dog as his times are slower now than his best time of 29.39 on April 28th from which date he has found no improvement on his times. Which for a dog so young with stamina limitations is puzzling to me.

[clivehumphreys]

Dont know his time from mondays race, but as you say he has not improved on that time from april, was it a correct time by the grader or he has he made a guess at it, whilst I do not want to change for the sake of change all I am thinking about is giving jimmy more chance of lasting home when he is in front. Please everybody state your views we are all in this together

[royepalmer]

I agree clive perhaps romford or crayford maybe an option-what do others think

[pam]

(i prefer romford),i dont like crayford i never have but its all about what suits the dog best not what i like,their welfare comes first and foremost.

[knockout]

i like romford, also think wimbledon could be an option ( if he goes to wimbledon we can watch on the webcast that has just been set up there ) also dislike crayford and not sure it would suit jimmy there

[Dave]

Okay heres my honest opinion as per usual....

Jimmy has been very unlucky in a strange sort of way,by this i mean he always seems to have the last dog you'd pick to go round behind him on his tail,Mondays race was exactly thgis,the 5 dog on all previous form could NOT go round handy let alone in 2nd place and as the winning time has shown it has improved dramatically doing a 29-22,jimmy got bt 2 1/2 thus improving from his last race albeit not by much.

Now lets forget what goes behind him etc and concentrate on his running style.

When he won his 1st race he showed Blistering Early pace and looked a complete non stayer,however since then he has shown nowere near that explosive early and has in his last 4-5 races become more consistent with good enough early but not blistering and seeing out the trip better if not brilliant,perhaps hes changed his running style a little to help at the end.
Now we know if he does'nt lead we can forget it and i think the Racing Manager realises that and has given him every chance to lead with more staying types in beside him,this is great in 1 way as he gets on the bunny more often BUT it then means we see a stronger dog nearer to the front than it would normally be thus giving it extra incentive to get its arse in gear as it sees the bunny sooner than normal.

If Jimmy went to Crayford or Romford i feel he could struggle to lead in alot of the races as both these tracks are LOADED with Early pace types,we see how Mac if not breaking struggles and i reckon Mac has more early than Jimmy so we could easily see poor Jim tailed off race after race.

For what its worth it does appear since i had that chat with Gary that Jimmy is running much better and maybe hes just coming to himself and growing stronger,remember he was a big backward pup on entering Garys and very very rogueish in the kennel and he might just be settling down now..

Now as you all know i was the 1 about 4 weeks ago that gave out the call asking about the chances of Jim moving in the near future but to give Gary a chance to prove the dog was fine at The Stow,well in my honest opinion i think hes fine were he is and a move right now could go against him,if he did go i'd like to see him at Julies kennel as i know he'd get done proper and she knows what makes them tick having 2 pups from Lady already.

At the end of the day though, the pups belong to all of you, and if you want him moved i'll tell Gary and arrange everything else.

[steve15]

i dont think he will cope early......he would get murdered, it would be another tessa, if we dont tread carefully

[richardc]

There were 4 days in April when Jimmy ran 29.39 and 29.41 in consecutive races, breaking 5 seconds sectional each time. He then went on a poor run where his times really went downhill whether he had a clear run or not. Who knows why that was, they are not machines and being a young dog he might have had other things on his mind. His last three runs he is in much better form, winning one nicely and last time OK he was beaten after leading but he still clocked 29.44.

I agree he might be better over a slightly shorter trip but I'm not sure either Romford or Crayford would suit. I haven't been to either but they look fairly tight tracks and looking at Jimmy I think he needs a decent run to the first bend, which, as Dave says, he might not get where almost all the runners have good early.

If we move him he will not only have to trial in and learn a new track, but also settle in a new kennel as well. Given he is now running better than he was doing, I think we should persevere with him at Walthamstow, at least for the time being.

[pam]

as i said before , the dogs welfare is the main point ,where he runs has to suit him be it walthamstow or another track, each dog matures at a different rate they're not all the same just because they're all greyhounds, he is changing his style so maybe wait and see at walthamstow ??