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Post by clivehumphreys on Jul 27, 2006 7:21:30 GMT
As I invited comments on Jimmy runs, thanks to all who have commented but there are still quite a few members who have not made any comments now or previously, please comment as everybodys view is important. It goes without saying that the welfare of all the pups is paramount in whatever is decided as I made the comment weeks ago to give Joe extra time to recover. I just feel that Jimmy runs his heart out and has to watch something passing him a couple of metres from the line. I think he needs a galloping track not a tight circuit but a slightly shorter distance. Anyway as he gets older hopefully he will get stronger and manage to stay that little bit better.
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Post by gazzaa10 on Jul 27, 2006 18:26:33 GMT
I havent seen enough runs, but I dont think he sees out the trip. I dont know enough about other tracks to know what would suit. Surely its a case of letting him try for himself. Sure he would have to trial and get used to a new track, but is running him where he has little chance of getting up the grades or fulfilling his potential any better?
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Post by kwame on Jul 27, 2006 23:22:42 GMT
I've only seen Jimmy's races on greyhound-data as I am not in the UK.
In the last one on record (4 races back), he was still with the winner as they went round to the pickup, and I see that he was given as running on in his last race.
Allowing for the fact that he is only 21 months and still looks a little lean, I think he can still make it at the Stow.
I hope to watch him in the flesh next month when I come over on leave.
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Post by Dave on Jul 27, 2006 23:48:22 GMT
Keith
Mind and let me know exactly when you'll be here and i'll try get all the dogs out to accomadate your stay as its not often you'll get the chance to see them outwith a on the P.C
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Post by birgitta on Jul 28, 2006 22:34:29 GMT
i have not seen Jimmy run at all so its hard for me to make any comments,,,,,,,,, but hes still young(dont give up on him) maybe the track or distance does not fit him.......
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Post by Dave on Jul 28, 2006 23:59:29 GMT
Jimmys out on Tuesday night..
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Post by johnc on Jul 29, 2006 15:03:34 GMT
hiya all.. cant really comment on the tracks in england as lm not familiar with them. I agree with kwame about jimmy being only 21 mths. I would always give a dog until 2 yrs of age before making any changes.
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Post by aderek on Jul 30, 2006 6:32:32 GMT
I am sure that taking everything into account Jimmy is as well suited to Walthamstow as he would be anywhere else, after all he runs the track very well its just that he has difficulty maintaining the same speed over the last 50 or so metres that he has been doing for the first 400 plus. I made quite a study of Jimmy after I had first seen him run and I came to the conclusion (wrongly I hasten to add) that he was waiting in front but I had never any doubt that he would be racing in a higher grade over a shorter distance, however would it be of any benefit to anyone if he went up a couple of grades or so, more importantly would Jimmy be happy struggling to lead to the first against dogs that have nearly, just as much or maybe more early pace? If, by moving track to race over a shorter distance, he was going to make it into open class then by all means have a go but to make the switch to enable him to run say A3/4 instead of A6/7 I would suggest we forget it, even if overall he is losing me my cash.he is at least giving me a lot of fun.
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Post by gazzaa10 on Jul 30, 2006 16:47:11 GMT
Bring him to Poole in an open sprint, he will blow them away believe me.
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Post by steve15 on Jul 30, 2006 20:14:31 GMT
if it was only that simple gazza......he might beat 4 bend dogs in a sprint, but wudnt live with an out n out sprinter....
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Post by aderek on Jul 31, 2006 7:06:13 GMT
Jimmy has clearly created an interest amongst members, I think myself that a trial or two over a sprint distance would do no harm, in fact the extra runs would be something I feel as much as anything would help Jimmy’s ability to last out the trip at Walthamstow. It would mean a bit of hassle for the trainer or his staff but it would help give an answer to something that will no doubt surface again and again, in fact it will probably do so every time his all action style propels him into the lead round that first bend at Walthamstow, even if his races are only A6/A7. Gary’s suggestion of an open at Poole might be an idea eventually, providing Jimmy could justify it in the sprint trials. Personally I still think on the whole he will be happiest as he is.
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Post by gazzaa10 on Jul 31, 2006 13:37:10 GMT
if it was only that simple gazza......he might beat 4 bend dogs in a sprint, but wudnt live with an out n out sprinter.... Why do you say that? There are not many of those at Poole and his EP would give him a chance, not many dogs come from elsewhere for these monthly opens. 15.20 would win it
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Post by gazzaa10 on Jul 31, 2006 13:39:57 GMT
Jimmy has clearly created an interest amongst members, I think myself that a trial or two over a sprint distance would do no harm, in fact the extra runs would be something I feel as much as anything would help Jimmy’s ability to last out the trip at Walthamstow. It would mean a bit of hassle for the trainer or his staff but it would help give an answer to something that will no doubt surface again and again, in fact it will probably do so every time his all action style propels him into the lead round that first bend at Walthamstow, even if his races are only A6/A7. Gary’s suggestion of an open at Poole might be an idea eventually, providing Jimmy could justify it in the sprint trials. Personally I still think on the whole he will be happiest as he is. I reckon a sprint would maybe suit as it would all be over before he has time to think about it. Could be at any track, could well freshen him up. Who knows certainly not me ;)
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Post by Dave on Jul 31, 2006 19:57:01 GMT
Gary
I very much doubt Gary would travel to Poole but i have got an idea that he might go for,will chat with him tomorrow and let you know his thoughts.
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Post by steve15 on Jul 31, 2006 20:05:35 GMT
i think that because ive seen so many early paced four bend runners try and be sprinters......they are a different animal, they are, or should be trained differently. to my mind, a sprinter wouldnt stay 300m let alone 475.....they are just an explosion
now if your against 4 bend dogs in a sprint, then yeah, hes in with a shout
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